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we're not immune. we never have been. this is not the latest. this is not the first. it's not even the worst but as always it demands our best. will america rise. thank you for watching cnn tonight with dan lemon. >> i hope so. will we do it is the question you ask. i really, really hope so and it's hard for me to feel that way after witnessing these over and over and over again and just the hate that we're witnessing. >> there is so much hate in the world right now. older, wiser people will say it's always that way. what changes is the will to deal with it. goes back and forth. muslims were made into monsters after 9/11. that happened with both parties. went to war. went to war in the wrong places people could argue. now there has to be an adjust am. the obama administration cut
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funding to look at these white extremists also. that's about what's perceived as a threat. time to adjust. this president complicates that because he is cottoned to it. he is given comfort to these people. >> when you say the obama administration, yes, maybe factually, but that was because of political pressure from the right. it was because conservatives were upset. >> conservatives were upset, pun intended, they were on their own jihad. then you had the weird moment where they want didn't to say. there was a swing but that swing never let us back. we never got that far. we still put so much resources into dealing with what we should. islamist extremist is a problem around the world. it could manifest here.
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we know that all too painfully. there has to be an adjustment resources and perspective. resources is the easy part, perspective is the hard part. the president thinks acknowledging this problem is bad for him. >> so, listen. let's hope it doesn't happen here, what you said, but so far the facts are it is a shiny object here. >> right now. >> it has been. 9/11, that was an outlier, right? >> sure. >> it is a shiny object here. we forget about all of the other terror plots and activities and we only look at the ones that happen. you want to demonize the brown minutes. >> did it today. >> if you in your closing argument, if we want to live up to what you said, we have to
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stop demonizing the brown minutes and we have to get to the reality of what is the actual facts and truth about what constitutes terrorism or who's responsible for most of the terrorism in this country. until we do that, never going to happen. ain't gonna happen, as they say. >> look, and even if you want to deal with it on the level of, well, i'm just somehow psychologically more comfortable of being afraid of a threat that doesn't look like me, people need to know, white extremists hate all of us. either you're in one of the categories or you're sympathetic to one of those categories. really there's only a thin slice that's going to make it. both of us were on the list of a guy who's exactly like this, who thought it was a good idea to kill a bunch of us. you didn't see the president jumping up and down on all of this. how sick are we? we've got to be better than this. right now it's not about us the
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politics, left, right, all of that bs, the world needs us at our best right now. somebody's got to stand up to this and say, this is not who we are, this is not how we will be. it's not us versus them. it's we. it's got to be us. >> i'm here. i know you are. i'll try to take some of your optimism. i used to be a glass half full kind of guy. i'm empty. >> no future in dfrgs, don. only bad things happen. >> this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. we have got to talk about the rise of white supremacy. sit back and please listen. just listen, okay? i'm going to lay it all out for you right now. we've got to talk about how it's killing people around the world. we know the latest. 49 muslim worshippers shot in attacks on two mosques in new
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zealand, yet today today the president of the united states, who had just gotten off the phone with the prime minister, offering his condolences after what can only be called a brutal terror attack, the president said this -- >> do you think that they were white nationalists are a rising threat around the world? >> i don't really. i think it's a small group of people that have very, very serious problems i guess. >> he doesn't see it as a rising thre threat, even though that's what the facts show. just hours after the murders of 49 people. just hours after the alleged shooter, an avowed white nationalist, posted a so-called manifesto online, 87 pages, filled with anti-immigrant and
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anti-muslim rhetoric calling immigrants invaders. play close attention to that word. that's the same language that the president of the united states used today, but the president doesn't see white supremacy as a rising threat. well, the prime minister of new zealand certainly does. >> white supremacy worldwide is a problem that is rising? do you agree? >> no. >> but president trump has a long history of minimizing the actions of white supremacists and other members of the far right. nobody's forgotten, nobody's forgotten what he said after that deadly white supremacist riot in charlottesville. >> you also had people that were very fine people on both sides, you had people in that group --
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excuse me. excuse me. i saw the same pictures as you did. >> and then there's what he said about form jeer kkk grand wizar david duke. >> just so you understand, i don't know anything about david duke, okay? i don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. i don't know. i don't know, did he endorse me or what's going on? because, you know, i know nothing about david duke. i know nothing about white supremacists and so you're asking me a question that i'm supposed to be talking about people that i know nothing about. i have to look at the group. i mean, i don't know what group you're talking about. you wouldn't want me to talk about a group i know nothing about. i would have to list. if you will send me a list of the groups i would do research on them. certainly i would disavow. honestly, i don't know david duke. i'm pretty sure i never met him. i just don't know anything about
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him. >> don't forget this tweet. after mail bombs were sent to people he views as his political enemies including cnn, quote, republicans are doing so well in early voting and now this bomb stuff happens and then the momentum greatly slows? news not talking politics. very unfortunate. what is going on here? very important. very unfortunate. what's going on? he doesn't want to talk about it. the president does not want to talk about it. the fact is far right terrorists are increasingly dangerous. increasingly dangerous. how many times do we have to sound the alarm about this? we talked about it months ago on this show. a lot of people had a real problem with that. well, here we are again. some facts for you.
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according to the antidefamation league, extremists killed 427 people in the u.s. between 2009 and 2018. right wing extremists were responsible for 73%, 73.3% of those deaths. left wing extremists were responsible for 3.2%. 3.2%. non-partisan think tank, new america, has a breakdown of deadly attacks in the u.s. by ideology. this is post 9/11 after 2017. charlottesville attack. 68 people were by far right groups and 8 by left wing groups or black separatists.
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that means using their analysis for every eight deadly a 25 lyl carried out by right wing extremists there was one attack carried out by left wing extremists. white nationalists are increasingly the face of terrorism. hold on, let me read this one more fact for you. this is from the adl. the extremist related murders in 2018 were overwhelmingly linked to right wing extremists. every one of the perpetrators had ties to at least one right wing extremist movement. every one in 2018. every one of them. christopher paul hassan, a self-proclaimed white nationalist arrested last month after the fbi uncovered his plans for a wyatt spread attack on elected officials and tv anchors, including me.
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sayak whose former boss called him a white supremacist and is expected to plead guilty to charges on sending 16 mail bombs to targets, including where i work, cnn. robert bowers charged with shooting and killing 11 worshippers at the tree of life synagogue in october who posted on a social network, that's a haven for white nationalists and neonazis about so-called invaders. people who are actually refugees seeking a better life in this country. there's that word again, invaders. a word that turns up over and over and over again in white nationalist propaganda, although a better word for it is lies. the suspect in the new zealand attack repeatedly called
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attackers invaders in the manifes manifesto. words matter. it matters that the president used the word itself today, the day after the new zealand terror attack. you know someone wrote that, right? when he was talking about his border. >> people hate the word invasion, but that's what it is. >> words matter. it matters what this president has said about muslims. listen to this. it's from a town hall during the campaign. >> we have a problem in this country called muslims. we know our current president is one. >> right. >> you know he's not even american. >> we need this question. >> but, anyway, we have training camps growing where they want to kill us. that's my question. when do we get rid of them? >> we're going to be looking at a lot of different things. a lot of people are saying that.
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people are saying bad things are happening out there. we're going to be looking at that and plenty of other things. >> no, there was no john mccain moment in there. no, he's not a muslim. what if he was muslim? no, he's not a muslim. there is no denouncing the ignorance of what that guy said. what that guy said was a lie, it was ignorance. the president didn't denounce it, he just doubled down on it. we're going to be doing a lot of things. there's more. >> i think islam hates us. there's something -- there's something there that -- there's a tremendous hatred there. there's a tremendous hatred. i don't know there are swedish people knocking down the world trade center. there is a muslim problem in the world. you know t i know it. donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united
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states. >> is it any surprise that the alleged shooter in new zealand wrote this about donald trump in his so-called manifesto. he asks himself, border? and he answers himself, that's a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose. sure. his own words. words matter. it matters when president trump downplays the real emergency of global white supremacist terrorism. it matters when he ignores the real emergency of climate change. even as students around the world took to the streets today to demand action. this president focused on a manufactured emergency at the border instead of the real emergencies that threaten all of you, all of us. think about that.
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as i mentioned at the top of the program there's a white
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nationalist creed filled with minorities and muslims. i want to talk about it now. this is a really important conversation. you say wajahad, the underlying theme is the fear of replacem t replacement. explain that to me. >> so replacement theory is the major fear of white supremacist ideology. it's called white again mow side. what they believe is there's a global cabal headed by the jews. the jews are at the top. they're using the rest of us, blacks, immigrants, refugees to take over western civilization to weaken the white man and subordinate them. how is this by president trump. he's a racist. he doesn't have racial flare-ups. i don't know what the hell a
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racial flare-up is. he's a racist much it's the feature, not the bug. if you look at this man who walked into a mosque, this is like sunday mass for muslims. the whole family goes in the early afternoon. 49 people go to pray and they won't come back. he opens up, fires, kills 49 of them. he wants to punish them, take revenge, go get them to save western civilization because he believes we are taking over. well, he says it's an invasion. who else says it's an invasion? mid-term 2018, president trump, anti-semetic conspiracy theory. it wasn't just him loose mouth, critical of israel. he said that george soros, a hungarian jewish american billionaire was funding a caravan of, who, immigrants, rapists, criminals, middle eastern invaders to take over. >> he used the word invaders
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today. >> take him literally and figuratively, don. there's a reason why the shooter says donald trump is the renewed symbol who shares a common purpose. what could be the common purpose that the president of the united states of america, donald trump, who says i think islam hates us and calls mexicans rapists and criminals could have with a white nationalist shooter who killed 49 people? >> i think that's fairly obvious. the attack happened in new zealand, the suspect is australian. he was fueled by the loss of nationalist's leader. he was inspired by other white nationalists. what does this say to you, this particular case, about this global threat? >> i think people are going to look at this and say, it's half a world away and it doesn't affect me and i look at this and say, whether it's europe, the u.s., whether it's dylan roof,
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why wouldn't we pay attention? it's australia. we don't have to focus on that. >> new zealand. >> that's right. i'm sorry, new zealand. >> he's from australia, right. >> from australia in new zealand. i look at this and say, in the age of globalization of identity, the globalization provided by the internet, we see this in the united states. if you think that in a country of fewer than 5 million people, less than half the size of new york city, that you will see this happen in new zealand and you don't think in a country of 330 million people where we say that a mexican is a rapist, where we say that a mexican judge doesn't have the right to pass judgment because of his heritage, that you don't think you're going to see this in this country? we've already seen this here, don. we're going to see this again. we have to say australia, new zealand, the same as what we see in the united states. >> i want to bring you in because, listen, there's white
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extremist terrorism or whatever you want to call it, however you want to say the term, there is jihadists. islamic terror. we don't want to downplay that. >> right. >> i think what people are concerned about is that people are not taking -- or they're downplaying, i should say, the white supremacist terror. >> not taking it seriously. >> should be taken seriously. >> the number one threat according to the fbi over the last ten years is what? white supremacists yet the media coverage, georgia state university came out. when the suspect is muslim or a person of color, there's seven more times coverage than when a white man does t. a white man is a lone wolf, troubled man. president trump goes hard on the paint against isis. when someone did that, they took a car in 2017 and plowed through
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a group, he was tough. when the uzbek did it, extremely tough. when a white nationalist does it, he's impotent. when putin interferes with the election, he's impotent. why? why are the kkk who chant, wait for t the jews will not replace us, throw back to the replacement theory and they kill heather hyer, antiracist protestor. he says they're very fine people, both sides are to blame. it comes from the top down. this is a commander in chief. i want president trump to be the president of all-americans not just his base and white nationalists who, by the way, see him as a figure head, as an enabler. how do we know that? their own words. daily stormer, the number one white supremacist website said, he's our guy. richard spencer said, he's our guy. david duke says, he's our guy.
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>> the question for phil, he's 28 years old, the suspect. how do you become radicalized at 28 years old? how do you stop it? >> i give you a simple answer by how you become radicalized and that is called validation. 30 years ago you could not become validated without coming face to face with an al qaeda member. in the age of the internet, you look at the document that's available on the internet, was available on the internet, no doubt he's talking to people or viewing documents that tell him the anger you feel is okay because somebody a country away, a continent away tells you that's appropriate. validation is what allows someone like this to say it's okay for me to do this because someone in europe told me it's okay to do this. how you stop it, boy, don't ask about facebook, don't ask about the fbi and the cia.
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anybody who ever sees this on the internet has to say, i'm not going to share it. not only am i not going to share it, if i see it, i have to stop it. it can't just be government and facebook, it has to be us, don. >> can i give a simple analogy for the audience? >> yes. >> white isis. the dna is the same, the path towards radicalization is the same. much of the grievances are the same. instead of islamic paradise, they want the valhalla. a hero's narrative. he thinks he's a hero of this narrative saving western civilization. he leaves a video behind. who else leaves videos behind? >> what do you think of that, phil, as a security expert? >> that's correct. there's a universe of people who think like i think and therefore i'm going to leave a legacy that tells those people, act like i did here, part of a universe that communicates on the
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internet. i think they're validated by other people and they could not have been validated 30 years ago. it's a new world. >> i encourage you to read wajhit ali's piece. it is fascinating. we thank you and phil mudd as well. next, we'll talk to the man who warned about this nearly a decade ago. why are you so good at this? had a coach in high school. really helped me up my game. i had a coach. math. ooh. so, why don't traders have coaches? who says they don't? coach mcadoo! you know, at td ameritrade, we offer free access to coaches and a full education curriculum- just to help you improve your skills. boom! mad skills. education to take your trading to the next level. only with td ameritrade.
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johnson. he's a former counter terrorism official whose upcoming book is a hate land." max booth is the author of "corrosion of the conservatism, why i left the right." thank you both for coming on. max, you're here all the time. i'm doubly glad you're here, darryl johnson, because i have been talking about you and have known about you since 2009, since that report. i read what you wrote today for the washington post. i want to tell people what you did. you warned of the resurgence of right wing extremists back in 2009 in a leaked report. among the key findings you wrote this, you said this, right wing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about several emergent issues, the economic downturn, the election of the first african-american president, uniq unique drivers of right wing
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recruitment. tell me about the reaction at that time? >> well, we had a political backlash as you may remember back in 2008 when barack obama won the election. the republicans were coming off of some tough losses and i think they were grasping at anything they could find as kind of a political bat against the new administration so my report became that weapon. >> your report became that weapon. as i remember, you had to -- janet napolitano released a report talking about this and then ended up having to apologize. was the report rescinded? >> yes. after the weak attempt to support it, political power spoke out about t. the american legion said our report slandered veterans, which it did not. basically they rescinded the
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report and the whole message got lost in the political battle between the two parties. >> here we are, fast forward ten years. >> hard to believe. >> all the global white supremacist attacks we have seen since then. what are the consequences of president trump ignoring the facts and saying that he doesn't think white nationalism is a rising threat worldwide? >> well, there's several consequences. number one, the body count just keeps going up month after month, year after year but there's also -- by not saying anything you're actually emboldening these members of these groups to swell the ranks, to get more radical and to follow with other violent attacks. so it becomes this vicious cycle that keeps increasing and increasing. i'll tell you, don, when i wrote that report in 2009 i thought this was going to be a four to eight year cycle. i didn't think that we would be in year ten and have this
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continued increase. >> let me bring in max boot. not all terrorism is treated equally. explain. why do we treat muslim extremists differently than white supremacists? >> there are some legitimate reason why is that's the case. the worst terrorist attack in history, 9/11, was carried out by islamic extremists. we have done a good job of targeting that. what's happening now is we are ignoring the rising tides of right wing extremism. we are still so focused on islamist terrorism and we are ignoring that 70% of the deaths caused by terrorists in the united states have been caused by right wing terrorists. 29 people dead in new zealand. from an earlier attack, 77 people dead in norway in 2007.
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so there's this kind of right wing international group of terrorists who communicate online, but we don't target them in the same way that we target jihadist organizations. we do a lot of counter programming. we do a lot of counter propaganda to try to take down, for example, islamic state websites. weep don't have the same kind of effort to take down white supremacist, far right winged websit websites. we need to get after it. otherwise, you'll see more body counts and more carnage. >> do you think it's unfair -- i had a couple of questions quickly. do you think it's unfair to put some onus on what happened to this president to date? would that be reckless to do that? >> no, i think it's fair. the analogy that i would draw is trump's relation to these right wing active terrorisms is like the saudi's relationship to
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jihadism. they're inspiring people. >> why do you use that language? this is a question i was trying to get to. if, indeed, people say you can't blame him for it. directly he didn't obviously. >> right. of course. >> but why then use the language of invaders, the same language the terrorists in new zee land did and others did? why use that language? >> xenophobia, islamophobia, those are core parts of his identity. that's what he uses to appeal to many of his followers. he's not trying to call for violence, but you have to understand there are some people that hear the message and are driven over the break. that's the danger we face here. words of hatred lead to acts of hatred. president trump needs to understand that, needs to stop with this rhetoric but he refuses to do it. >> darryl, you have said typically during republican administrations we have seen a decrease in right wing extremism.
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you say that's not the case under this administration. explain why. >> typically under democratic administrations the white supremacists get fearful of expansion of minority rights. the ain't-government extremists, they get paranoid and fearful over possible gun legislation. when republicans come into power they don't have those same fears and worries so you tend to see a decrease in their activity, less organizing, less violent attacks, but what makes this cycle different is the 2016 political campaign was so heated and, you know, donald trump has borrowed some of these extremist themes that i used to see, you know, on storm front and other neonazi sites 10, 15 years ago. he may stream this during the 2016 campaign. so the extremists look at his language, the themes that he's putting forth, border wall, banning muslims, mass deportation of immigrants.
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these were once on the dark recesses of the internet now being mainstreamed by the president. >> a political backlash ensued because of the label right wing extremism. the report pointed out that the returning military veterans may be targeted for recruitment by extremist extremists. they demanded janet napolitano recynt my report. the american legion requested an apology. some call for me to be fired. i wonder what they're thinking today? i was reading from daryl johnston's piece in the washington post and it was from august of 2017. darryl, thank you. thank you very much as well, max, i appreciate it. there's also a lot of questions about robert mueller. will he deliver his findings and whether we'll learn what is in that report. the president has an opinion on that, too. would it surprise you to hear that he thinks there should be no mueller report at all?
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president trump went on a twitter tirade against special counsel's investigation this morning claiming the special counsel should never have been appointed and there should be no mueller report. let's discuss. we have two guests here. harry is the creator and executive producer of the new podcast, "talking feds." congratulations and thank you for joining us this evening. harry, let's start with you. we've heard the president's claims there was no collusions and the investigation is a witch hunt but he's going further here. he's saying there shouldn't even be a report. he even went on to call the investigation illegal. what's your take? >> yeah. on the merits it's been really discredited but my main take is it's such a stale and recycled argument. it's not just that it's wrong on
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the merits but it really is irrelevant and old, old news now. i mean, let's say there were some philosophy which has been rebutt rebutted. the question is whether it's bona fide, whether what mueller has brought forward stands up and at every turn it does. so it's really quite beside the point, even if what he were saying were valid, which it's not. >> asha, everyone wants to know what's in the mueller report. the house voted unanimously that the report should be given to the public. they all agreed on this. they couldn't agree on hate. is the president getting worried about the world seeing what's in this report? >> he has to be worried don. listen, if you truly believe that you were completely innocent, that this is all a
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hoax, then you would -- you would want the report to come out. i mean, according to the president, the report should be blank or have like two sentences on it and it should exonerate him. i mean, clearly he doesn't want it to come out. he doesn't think that's the case. but ultimately this is a case of like very high public interest. i think both parties understand that. they know that not knowing what's in there would be weaponized on either side by speculation and it's better for the american public to know the truth. >> harry, let's talk about rick gates because mueller says they aren't ready for him to be sentenced. here's what the special counsel office said today. gates continues to cooperate with several ongoing investigations and accordingly the parties do not believe it is appropriate to commence the sentencing process at this point. so what's your read on this delay in sentencing? does it give you any idea where robert mueller might be in his investigation right now? >> i can guess but, wow,
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several? that really jumped out at me, not sdny. gates is mr. inaugust o uust -- inauguration. it suggests a russia connection, possibly stone, possibly somebody unindicted so far. whichever it is, it seems front and center down the middle for what investigating, which makes it a little bit more perplexing than mueller seems to be getting ready to leave the stage. >> i missed that little bit. i had to look down again with respect to -- he continues to cooperate with respect to several ongoing investigations. several. interesting. >> yeah. >> asha; let's remind everyone exactly who gates is and how he got here. a long-time associate of
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manafort. and is part of a cooperation with mueller he testified against his former mentor, manafort. asha, gates clearly had a lot of could contact with the president's senior aides and what they were up to during the election. all that said, it's not clear how gates is still cooperating. should the president be worried? >> yes, he should be worried. so, you know, what i think -- where gates can be especially helpful to mueller in addition to all the things that you mentioned is that he was a part of the meeting with manafort and kilimnik where they discussed the passage of polling data to constantine kilimnik who is affiliated with russian intelligence. they discussed a possible peace plan which has surfaced in other
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areas. this goes to the heart of the collusion inquiry. was there some kind of quid pro quo where russia was giving help, targeted help in terms of social media, disinformation campaigns in exchange for some kind of policy change from the campaign? that's what i see on the surface. i suppose rick gates could give more information. this goes to the counter intelligence side. which is possible that he could be wrapping up the criminal part of the investigation and wrapping up the report but still trying to figure out what russia is up to and it does not end. >> asha, harry, thank you. harry, congratulations on the podcast and your new fancy glasses. >> thank you. thank you very much. >> we appreciate it. we'll be right back. ♪
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innocent people attacked during friday prayers at two mosques, men, women, children gunned down. suspected shooter a white supremacist harboring a hatred for muslims. i want to bring in governor jay inslee. climate change is one of his top issues. we're so glad to have you here. >> thank you. >> i appreciate it. >> you heard the president's comments today. he condemned it and then he used the words, invaders, whatever. what responsibility does this president have? because you led the charge on the muslim ban. >> of all his offenses and chaos, to me the most infuriating is this continued giving license to hatred, racism, islamophobia.
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it's why when he did this muslim ban i ran down and tried to get them to reunite the families and they tried to rescue these people to allow them to get into the country. it infewer i don't remember rates me. this is like if there's a big fire, having the president of the united states that day going out and pouring gasoline on the floor and handing out matches. that's what he's doing here. >> on all days after 49 people died today he said he didn't believe that when every stat shows that white nationalism is on the rise or white supremacist. >> it's hard to understand on any day to say that but today on this day when people all over the world of all faiths are feeling this pain is just a window into that dark place and it is a very dark place in his soul that can say that there's -- both sides are equal in charlottesville, that we could continue to reject people from muslim countries who on a day of such suffering would add
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to that suffering by calling people invaders. this -- this person needs to be removed from office. >> another global threat. you're making the corner stone of your campaign and that is climate change. >> yes. >> today students from all over the world skipped class and they took to the streets to protest what they believe is government lack of action in fighting climate change. let's put some of the pictures up. but it was 2,000 protests, 125 countries. you were out there today in new york with these young people. tell me what you saw and heard. >> well, i saw hope and challenge both, and both are important. these are young people who are challenging the previous generation not to degrade the world they're going to live in. one of the most interesting women i talked to -- young women had a sign that said, there's no planet b. how true it is. her sort of challenge is, look, do something. just do something. you're hurting our generation. i met a fellow i met at an
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international conference a couple of years ago who was on a panel with al gore, myself and a bunch of other folks. he said the thing that was most impressive to me, which is your generation is damaging my generation. this is unacceptable to us. that's what these young people are saying. >> can you get them out to vote? listen, if young people voted -- >> yeah. >> -- if they actually did. >> right. >> -- they could actually change things in this country. >> they are. >> that's a big voting block. your platform -- you're fighting for what you call environmental justice. do you think you can win the white house on environmental justice? >> yes. yes. the reason is people now are understanding the damage in their own lives. they're witnessing this is no longer a chart or a graph. i co-authored a book 11 years ago about this. at that time it was a chart or a graph. now it's paradise, california, 25,000 person town burned to the ground. it's floods in houston. smoke in seattle so bad kids
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couldn't go outside. people are experiencing this. this is why in iowa there's polls against democratic voters. number one issue tied for health care. i am saying finally we're going to have a candidate who says this has to be job number one for the united states. it has to be the first foremost and paramount duty. the reason is if it's not job one it won't get done. we need to sweep away objections to climate change, including the filibuster. i'm a candidate who says we can get away with filibuster. >> you know i enjoy having conversation with you. you are on often and i appreciate that. >> thank you. >> will you please come back? >> any time. >> good luck out there. >> thank you. >> there's a lot to do. you guys are bumping in on each other. >> people want to retire this president. we're up to that. i want a piece of it. >> thank you. i appreciate it. we'll be right back. if you have moderate to severe psoriasis,
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